«Puas» by GRUPO SISMO

Betan Prismas Interview about his project «Puas»
27-09-2021

Name of the Street Art piece that has modified the urban space: Puas

Location : Mar del Plata City, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Year : 2021

1- If you had to choose a Street Art piece that you created, as a transformation of the urban space, which one would you choose? How does this Street Art piece denote urban space metamorphosis?

I choose «Puas» this work for me meant finding the aesthetic direction that we had been looking for as Grupo SISMO for a long time. I believe that the transformation of urban space occurs whenever a work intervenes in its architecture, in some way a blank wall or an element of the street goes from being something unknown to being communicating and connecting with people through the power of the symbol or of the intervention. What could previously be a ruined or mossy wall becomes a point where people now take photos, that seems incredible to me. I think there is an alchemical process there, as if lead turns into gold.

Grupo Sismo – «Puas» @fer_lerena @massi_ledesma https://www.instagram.com/grupo.sismo/

2- Why did you make this Street Art piece in this urban space? Was it the town hall or the property owner who authorized or asked you to create it? Can we consider this work as illegal/vandalism or legal, what is your criteria?

Art should not be illegal. We always consider something artistic as a sensitive fact that, through a communicative act, transmits, transforms and moves on some level. And it does not mean or have as a means or consequence the submission, abuse or suffering of some over others. Considering that, I think that no artistic act should be illegal. In my case I have always tried to paint with the consent of the owners, to develop a deeper artistic experience. I like to take all the time I need and demand each wall from me to paint a work.

Grupo Sismo – «Puas» @fer_lerena @massi_ledesma https://www.instagram.com/grupo.sismo/

3- What is the message you want to communicate through this Street Art piece? Is it related to the urban space where you did it?

That work speaks of many things. For me and my colleague from Grupo SISMO Massi, it has to do with a certain empowerment of the displaced. The woman has her body full of marks, marks that could have killed her and she remains firm, standing and looking defiantly. The birds called here in Argentina Horneros, are the symbol of the laborious. They are animals that make their houses with mud. She comes out of a sea of ​​leaves, perhaps the forest or the jungle, perhaps her house, a moon is marked on her forehead, perhaps what she represents. At the same time, I would like the look and what we feel in general when we see Puas, to have to do with what the work is about, that which makes us feel a climate of lights, the twisting of the face, or a detail in the mouth of the bakers, but that already belongs to each viewer.

Grupo Sismo – «Puas» @fer_lerena @massi_ledesma https://www.instagram.com/grupo.sismo/

4- How was this work integrated into the urban space? What was the interaction that the inhabitants of this city had with your project? Did they participate in its creation?

That work speaks of many things. For me and my company from Grupo SISMO Massi, it has to do with a certain empowerment of the displaced. The woman has her body full of marks, marks that could have killed her and she remains firm, standing and looking defiantly. The birds called here in Argentina Horneros, are the symbol of the laborious. They are animals that make their houses with mud. She comes out of a sea of ​​leaves, perhaps the forest or the jungle, perhaps her house, a moon is marked on her forehead, perhaps what she represents. At the same time, I would like the look and what we feel in general when we see Puas, to have to do with what the work is about, that which makes us feel a climate of lights, the twisting of the face, or a detail in the mouth of the bakers, but that already belongs to each viewer.

5- Do you think it is important that the local people participate during the production of your work and that they become artists modifying the urban space or do you prefer to carry out your projects alone without anyone seeing you?

Well, whenever I produce urban art, I think about the people, the place where I go to paint and their traditions. I don’t think urban art has to be a selfish expression of my feelings and that’s it. For that I make drawings in my notebooks.

Grupo Sismo – «Puas» @fer_lerena @massi_ledesma https://www.instagram.com/grupo.sismo/

6- According to you, what is the criteria that determines your Street Art work modifies the urban space and why is your work considered aesthetically well done?

Well I believe that a work modifies the urban space first of all when it does not go unnoticed. If a work of urban art escapes the sight of the people, I believe that it will not be fulfilling its main purpose, reaching the community. For me, an aesthetically well done work, saving the rigors of the technique that seems very important to me, is one that knows how to generate a dialogue with people in their time and place.

7-What is the “historical future” of your work? Should we take care of it, preserve it and repaint it as if it were a museum’s piece of art? Or should it be allowed to age with the city itself?

Well that’s something that I couldn’t say. I am of the idea of ​​separating the artist’s work and every time I paint in the street that idea is reaffirmed. Because people appropriate the work, make it their own and that for me is one of the most beautiful things in urban art as something public. If that happens, people will have to tell what to do.

Grupo Sismo – «Puas» @fer_lerena @massi_ledesma https://www.instagram.com/grupo.sismo/

8- How does your work add value to the urban space in which it is produced?

I imagine that the value is given in a reciprocal way. Painting in the street is very enriching for me as an artist. Get out of the boxes in my workshop and connect with people. I think that makes you a more human artist, it breaks with certain paradigms of the artistic aura and the enlightened creative. Now the works speak for themselves, I think that depositing an artistic narrative and letting it connect with people in a free way of protocols, can generate totally uncertain and unexpected wealth. But riches at last.

9- What were the difficulties that you encountered during the completion of your work modifying the urban space?

Many difficulties. The main one here in South America is economic, there are no resources to paint and that is added to the lack of spaces. That is one of the main means by which artistic expression is repressed. A law that marginalizes us is not needed so much since it is enough with the economic. Of course, whoever wants to paint some form can find it, but there are many people who cannot even consider that, because thinking about making art is at some point a class privilege. Well outside of the social and economic, the climate is one of my main enemies, where I am from it tends to be very cold almost all year round, fingers hurt, you get sick easily, haha.

Grupo Sismo – «Puas» @fer_lerena @massi_ledesma https://www.instagram.com/grupo.sismo/

10- Why is urban art important to modify the urban space? What sort of projects are you planning to do in the future ?

Well I think I said it a bit in other questions. I think it is important to develop the sensitive nature of people, nurture empathy and experience dialogues with other languages ​​in non-linear ways as art allows and develops. If we want peoples with healthier and richer societies personally, we must democratize access to art. There is a great contribution to the critical construction of thought and aesthetic life that is left only for those who can access a museum, artistic education at an early age and others.
We are working very interested in large-scale urban art projects, multi-story high buildings. We are fascinated by the impact of the monumental, so if our star guides us to the right direction, we will be in the heights very soon again.

Interview conducted by Art Bill – journalist and owner of Street Art In Action.

RRSS OF GRUPO SISMO : Instagram @fer_lerena @massi_ledesma

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